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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:35:00 -
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Dear CCP art team,
So now we have one unique skybox for the ENTIRE region.
Really? What happened to "going through space"? What happened to "seeing the ship going through the nebula"?
I thought there would be a new nebula for EACH SYSTEM when you said it's gonna be rendered. And everytime you jump, the skybox changes a little, and you can actually SEE the GRADUAL changes in the sky. It's like from A to B you need to go through the space in between. Not like A and then suddenly BAM, B. You know what I mean?
Since they are all rendered in the computer anyway, why is it so hard to put in a few extra GB for the new skyboxes? Don't you just need to setup the camera positions and hit render? Why not unique skybox for every system or at least every constellation?
Curious EVE player |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:50:00 -
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To the two gentlemen above,
From what I can understand the dev blog, no, the backdrop will be exactly the same in one region, meaning there will be no difference if you are in Jita or at the other end of the region. You won't see any "slight changes" within a nebula, only sudden "whoa I'm suddenly in another nebula and I can see the nebula I was in from far away" when you jump from region to region. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 11:16:00 -
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Quote:We decided that the smallest unit using the same backdrop would be a region. That means 68 unique backdrops. So when you jump between regions is when you notice phenomena being closer, further away or gone.
You don't need Reading V to understand this bit.
Same skybox for the whole region. No "subtle changes" or "inside outside a nebula".
Someone just fell into CCP's marketing. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 13:34:00 -
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CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
It actually changes between constellations, not systems, right now. But like stated in the blog, many constellations share the same nebula.
However, the concern for our choice of granularity has been noted, we won't make drastic changes to the system or the assets before the winter release, but this is obviously something many are concerned with and we'll examine what we can do. However, I encourage you to check it out on Singularity ( or TQ once it ships ) before making final judgements!
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That means 68 unique backdrops.
There are 68 regions in the game, not 68 constellations.
Also, he was talking about the technical stuff of the cube map system. "But like stated in the blog, many constellations share the same nebula." means there will be the same cube map for all the constellations inside the same region.
I just HOPE it won't be another abandonware after the initial release and not get improved upon like SO MANY OTHER THINGS in EVE. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 13:36:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:
HURRR DURRR
read the above ret*rd
You need a Reading skillbook. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 13:57:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:
Unique backdrops are conformed in cube maps. Think about what your suggesting. If there were static backgrounds for each region, then there would have to be more than 68 individual backgrounds to get the sense of space when leaving a region and approaching another. Since they have said there are 68 backdrops, it is only logical to conclude they are talking about 68 individual cube maps, with the background changing between constellations as different perspectives of the same nebula.
WhatthefuckamIreading.jpg |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 14:01:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:
damnit, i have been trolled
No seriously, what the hell do you mean 68 cubemaps but more than 68 backgrounds |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 14:09:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:This cannot mean 68 backgrounds otherwise whole regions would be the link to other regions.
This is EXACTLY why this thread exists.
There IS only 68 backgrounds. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 14:13:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:Jodis Talvanen wrote:Karl Planck wrote:This cannot mean 68 backgrounds otherwise whole regions would be the link to other regions.
This is EXACTLY why this thread exists. There IS only 68 backgrounds. lol i hate you so much right now
You're welcome, I love you too |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 14:27:00 -
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Confirming in SISI there is only one (the same) background/backdrop/cubemap per region.
Changing constellation within the same region DO NOT change the background or ANYTHING. |
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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 20:21:00 -
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Yes. Done by hand.
I'm actually disappointed by the "done by hand" factor because that means the pictures of the nebulae are not really precisely positioned and angled. They are just different versions of the same nebula "close up" "mid range" "far away" and some of them seems to be reused in several cubemaps.
It broke my naive hope of seeing a New Eden that is real. Now it is just "representative" stuff baked in photoshop. I'm slightly disappointed.
For example you cannot see nebula too far away even though they should be big enough to show up in the sky. Take the Cloud Ring for example. The scale of it should be big enough for the entire New Eden to see it (Just look at the map and draw a circle around the Cloud Ring region and see how big it is). But it just disappears after 2 regions away.
Yes they do look pretty good I admit. They will look pretty but they don't feel as real or as "locational" as I was hoping. |
Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.04 20:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:David Grogan wrote:it is per constellation It currently is by constellation, without any geography. It will be (and is on Sisi at the moment) by region, and the geography will change with each region change. Only when you change regions do things get bigger or smaller.
Elegant truth is elegant. |
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